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John Winterflood wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid:48E63BD6.5020009@cyllene.uwa.edu.au" type="cite">Dr
Stiffler wrote:
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<blockquote type="cite">My site was down for 12 days during power
outage as a result of Hurricane Ike followed by 'Denial of Service' and
invasion of my old MS Server OS. You are lucky you could find it in
operable state.
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Yes it appears to be down again.
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<b>It's close to being back up. Apache is installed and in the process
of converting from (.asp) to (.php).</b><br>
<blockquote cite="mid:48E63BD6.5020009@cyllene.uwa.edu.au" type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">Now to your initial topic. Yes and No on
ESEG. The current state is; 1) will not start itself. 2) requires
initial minimum charge to start. 3) output provides nothing for a
secondary device. 4) will run for time periods far in excess of initial
start charge, is "limited".
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I can't see that any of the limitations you have listed apply to the
setup I had in mind: Start with two capacitors charged to say 16V.
Run the ESEG from one capacitor while charging the other in a floating
state - as has already been demonstrated. Drawing 3mA for say 1 second
from a 3 Farad cap will only cause a voltage drop of about 1mV in its
supply voltage causing it to drop to 15.999V. Meanwhile the floating
capacitor should be charging at up at several (~6) times this rate and
will thus increase to say 16.005V. A multi-pole change over relay can
swap their connections over every second to run from the fully charged
one and recharge the slightly discharged one. <br>
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<b>There is nothing wrong with your idea, you have or can see in the
web pages that this was looked at from the very start, followed by
digital switching. Yet I have repeatedly stated the web was far behind
the work. Switching configurations are not required.</b><br>
<blockquote cite="mid:48E63BD6.5020009@cyllene.uwa.edu.au" type="cite">
Some sort of zener arrangement across each capacitor could prevent them
overcharging and regulate them to a suitable maximum voltage. Such a
self-runner would really be something to get excited about as it would
be obviously and undeniably overunity!
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<b>Maybe you would be do kind to define what you mean by 'Over Unity',
do you consider this to be some form of energy generation or creation?
You see I do not, you do not get something for nothing and Nature does
allow you to access energy that is not 'Free' yet appears by convention
to be so. SEC, Spatial Energy Conversion, the ability to pull from the
'Natural' Energy Lattice energy that is NOT Free. Of course you might
have hundreds of questions, yet I will not present them at this time,
SEC is not Magic, it is not Free and it is indeed part of the fabric of
out existence.</b><br>
<blockquote cite="mid:48E63BD6.5020009@cyllene.uwa.edu.au" type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">I have not been able to model the exciter in
'MicroCap', I do not know Spice but would welcome help here. If a model
could be derived, ESEG may really be something of value.
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I'm not surprised you are having problems attempting to model it. I
can see no reason for it to oscillate at all - there seems to be no
positive feedback path that I can discern. So my guess is that your
lack of shielding anywhere is allowing feedback to occur by unexpected
capacitive or inductive coupling. Until you can find out what this
feedback path is and quantify it somewhat, it will not be possible to
model the circuit's operation.
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<b>You have totally missed what I have stated from the start of SEC,
'The Exciters are (Negative Resistance) Bifurcating Oscillators". Your
feedback is the negative resistance provided by the transistor. Few
transistors will work as SEC Exciters. It can be modeled if one can get
a handle on the energy returned from the lattice, the return energy is
what drives the transistor into 'Negative Resistance'.<br>
<br>
Forget every thing you know. Build an Exciter and see what it does.
Then try to marry it with current teachings. Please, I have been at
this far to long to go over and over the same old things. I Welcome
anyone to provide an alternative answer to what a SEC Exciter is able
to do.<br>
</b>
<blockquote cite="mid:48E63BD6.5020009@cyllene.uwa.edu.au" type="cite"><br>
A more conventional approach might be to build such a unit into a
diecast box with BNC sockets for inputs and outputs and a small metal
can around the oscillator coil inside, etc. But then you would
probably just get conventional results - no oscillation - and nothing
new would be discovered!
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J.
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