[NewCandle] Image magnetic monopole charge

Nick Reiter avalonbiker at yahoo.com
Fri Jul 17 21:48:49 EDT 2009


Hey Keith and all,

Late this afternoon, I snipped out a couple of Peltier chip "members" - one of each, p and n (although I do not really know which is which!)

This was from one of the larger burned out Melcor chips that would have given at least some force effect back in the day.  I put both of them in the SEM and looked at their composition with EDS.

They are indeed mainly Bi and Te, however I was surprised to see about 2% Se in both, and about .3% Sn.  The main difference between "right" and "left" (n-p? p-n?) couple halves was in the stoichiometry of Bi to Te.  The one leg seemed to be about 2:3 Bi to Te, but the other was Te deficient.

No problem with trying some of this Peltier chip material obviously, but I do believe I want to also make some Bi2Te3 from the high purity Bi and Te materials I have, in a reaction ampoule.  I can then just go ahead and diffuse .67% at. Sn into the melt.

nr

> >Never tried that... but dang, what an excellent idea.
> >  A flat plate cap with Bi2Te3 would in theory
> produce
> > a field like a bar magnet, wouldn't it?  N
> monopoles
> > emitted from one face, S monopoles from the other?
> 
> Yes, that is my point exactly. And as it is impossible
> for a charged capacitor to have a dipole magnetic
> field around it, measuring such would be proof of
> the accumulation of magnetic charges in the dielectric
> material. The major source of artifact in my suggested
> experiment is the leakage current through the dielectric.
> The resulting magnetic field would interfere with the
> measurement, but in principle it could be nulled using
> a thin wire penetrating both plates and dielectric through
> which a dc current is passed of opposite sign to the
> leakage current. It's also worth noting that the field
> from the accumulated monopoles would be orthogonal
> to the leakage current field, so with careful alignment
> of the magnetic probes one could attempt the measurement
> without the compensating circuit. I have some fairly
> sensitive hall probes that can measure down to
> about .05 gauss. I wonder just how feeble the
> expected field would be for reasonable voltages?
> 
> Sadly, I no longer have the carte blanche access to
> the electronic journals that I had in NYC. So I can't
> grab a copy of ref 11 to see any details of what
> was being claimed. I did find a lot of related stuff
> on the web, such as these links.
> 
> http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/1167747
> http://meetings.aps.org/Meeting/MAR09/Event/100709
> http://www.symmetrymagazine.org/breaking/2009/01/29/making-magnetic-monopole
> s-and-other-exotica-in-the-lab/
> 
> Zhangs email address is listed at the first link, maybe
> worth contacting him if we try to do this, at least
> to get his input on how feeble the resulting fields
> would be for reasonable experimental implementations.
> 
> K.
> 
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