[NewCandle] Image magnetic monopole charge

[Keith Nagel]

Hey Nick,

Somewhere in my milk-crated hoard of scrap electronics is an
ancient peltier couple with _large_ blocks, like on the order
of a cm a side. If I stumble across it I'll break a few chunks
off and send you some for testing.

If you've already tested with a magnet and found no effect, that
pretty much eliminates the monopole hypothesis. It's likely
the dopant is ruining the effect; without the ability to
hold charge how could the image magnetic charge form?

Have you tried pure Bi2Te3 in a capacitor form, rather than
using the peltier junctions, in your force experiments?

K.

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[mailto:newcandle-bounces at ipdiscover.com]On Behalf Of Nick Reiter
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 4:11 PM
To: New energy for the new world.
Subject: Re: [NewCandle] Image magnetic monopole charge


Hi Keith,

While pricey in one sense, the availability of experimenter-friendly amounts
of Bi2Te3 in the form of old Peltier couples is hard to deny.  I've got some
high current couples with fairly big (like 3mm x 3mm x 5mm) "blocks" of
Bi2Te3.  Now of course a typical Peltier chip consists of a bunch of couples
in series - so you have two flavors to choose from, n and p.  I don't know
what the dopant is.  Maybe Sn or Sb.  Somehow I gathered that the optimum
alloy was slightly p doped with the .67% at of Sn.

One of the more recent observations I made whilst farting around with the
force effect, maybe last year some time, was that it seemed proportional to
current, not power dissipated.  However, I also had tried placing large
magnets nearby to assure it wasn't a motor effect of the leads with the
earth's field.  No change in result - indicating my lead arrangement and the
up and down fields of the couples were balanced.  OTOH, if I had been
generating monopoles, then wouldn't that have developed a torque with the
magnet to a greater degree than the earth field?  Unless the presence of the
strong magnet might have squelched or scattered the monopoles or their
formation somehow.

So many odd quirks, I should probably re-examine in light of the new ideas.
Why some chips just didn't work at all, while others from a different vendor
(but same size) did.  Why sometimes I could get an additive effect by
stacking and wiring in series or parallel, but not other times.  The neat
thing was that when I would find a chip that showed the effect to a good
degree, it ALWAYS shows the effect.  Which places it a notch above radionics
and perpetuum mobiles.

The chips that showed the effect best were modest (maybe 12W) chips that
would run no more than 1.5 amps of current, from a firm called Melcor.
Scott Little had used a larger chip from another mfg, got the effect, but
then felt it was due to lead strain, because it diminished when he used
superthin foil leads.  He sent their rig to me, and I was able to coax a
decent effect out of it.  But working on only so much of a budget, they
dropped it after about that point, understandably.  With an IR switched
relay and battery set up in about 2000, I was able to show the effect with
no connected lead wires at all.

Nevertheless, if the Peltier couple is a red herring, and the Bi2Te3 is the
issue, that could explain why I never was able to scale the danged force
effects I was seeing past about 2 or 3 mg for a single chip, maybe 10 to 12
a couple times for stacked chips.  It always nagged me that there was some
limiting variable I just wasn't seeing... whether it was all an artifact or
no!

n


> So Nick, that paper is claiming
> Bi2Te3 potentially supports magnetic
> monopoles.
> These would be formed by the presence of electric charge
> near the surface
> of the material. I'm thinking that a very simple experiment
> would involve
> depositing a metal film on the Bi2Te3, charging it to a
> high potential,
> and looking for the presence of a magnetic field. _Any_
> field would be
> anomalous. A single charge should create a monopolar
> magnetic field.
> Makes me wonder if that force anomaly you were seeing could
> be related
> to monopoles accumulating in the material???
>
> I remember our discussions about the force anomaly, but
> forgot what
> material made it work. Thanks for reminding me.
>
> K.
>
>
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