[NewCandle] los artifactos

[Nick Reiter]

Hi Keith,

Ja, I would be glad to try that as a precursor
experiment.  I don't have any silver nitrate, if you
have some, send away.  I'm still burning not so
midnight oil at the lab, but when I get home or in the
AM, I'll send you my address off-list.

n


--- Keith Nagel <NewCandleAdmin at ipdiscover.com> wrote:

> Yes Nick, I know, it's shameful to admit to using
> the scientific method rather than the "faith based"
> methodology so popular now (grin). But as a fellow
> sufferer of this affliction you have my sympathies.
> 
> Seriously, the whole reason I set this list up was
> to facilitate such communication as we've been
> having. Thanks for your contribution, we all
> learned something.  
> 
> I just unpacked the glassware today, and I'm
> considering starting
> a sample of aluminum in aluminum nitrate. Can you
> do a simple experiment? Take a small amount of
> silver nitrate, dissolve it in water, and submerge
> a piece of aluminum in the solution. After a few
> days, look at the results
> under your microscope and show us what you see. I
> know
> what this does on the macro scale, but to make any
> progress with the experiment I described to you here
> we would need to see what's possible on the micro
> scale.
> Use a dilute solution, say just a few crystals in
> 100ml
> of water. If you don't have any silver nitrate I'll
> be happy to mail you a sample.
> 
> K. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: newcandle-bounces at ipdiscover.com
> [mailto:newcandle-bounces at ipdiscover.com]On Behalf
> Of Nick Reiter
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 9:47 AM
> To: New energy for the new world.
> Subject: [NewCandle] los artifactos
> 
> 
> Hello, all,
> 
> Looks like I must take some egg on the face with
> this
> one, and extend a thank you to John at the same
> time. 
> It was not all that easy to weed out, but indeed,
> both
> the Ag and Y pseudo-signals are apparently just
> that. 
> I do have a call placed with the EDAX tech people to
> see if they can supply me with some literature on
> this, as little is mentioned in the "owners manual".
> 
> I'll not dwell on the long version, but in essence,
> even a bona fide Ag signal (from looking at 200A of
> Ag
> deposited on Al foil) loses the "second" 3.151keV
> line
> in the grass when the magnitude drops low enough...
> down to around 3 to 4% from the EDAX semi-quant. 
> You
> really can only differentiate the double Al from a
> low
> level but real Ag signal, by looking at a high
> purity
> standard (I used a 99.999 Al evaporation slug)
> 
> The reason for the odd offset "Y" peak is totally
> obscure to me, and I have no idea what count
> doubling
> artifact is involved there.  However, I rounded up a
> piece of 99.9% pure Al2O3 and examined that with
> EDS,
> and sure enough, there it was.  The pseudo-Y peak
> does
> seem to diminish more quickly when count rate is
> lowered.  The count rate lowering technique for
> discrimination isn't as empirically effective for
> the
> Ag, as it lowers Fe also
> 
> So there we are.  Apologies to all for the
> runaround.
> 
> I do think I will look at the surface of one of our
> pop-can anode glow "torches" though:)
> 
> Best,
> 
> nr
> 
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