[NewCandle] Ongoing aluminum foil hydrolysis
Nick Reiter
avalonbiker at yahoo.com
Mon Oct 13 15:36:04 EDT 2008
By golly, Jones, I have to say I'm not sure which way
it would go either, now that I think about it.
Someone more skilled in the dark arts of aqueous LENR
could tell us, I am sure. This isn't the first time I
ran into a what appeared to be a bulk physical
property difference with D2O. I recall when I was
playing with cathode plasma discharges that the
thermal conductivity of the water appeared to be
different.
(!)
n
--- Jones Beene <jonesb9 at pacbell.net> wrote:
> Nick - one question off the top - (and it is not
> quibbling ;-)
>
>
> > At comparable rest temps, the bubbling from
> the rolls took off, but the mean bubble size was
> much
> smaller - literally a high rate super "fizz" rather
> than the larger (>3mm) bubbles that would be evident
> when either normal water or slightly D2O enhanced
> water was used. Does added D2O somehow reduce the
> surface tension or energy of water?
>
> Don't you mean "Does added D2O somehow increase the
> surface tension or energy of water?" ?
>
> ... i.e. higher surface tension = smaller bubbles
>
> ... not real sure which is true, to be honest ....
>
> ...but I would think that higher surface tension =
> smaller bubbles because it allows them to break away
> sooner from the bulk water as intact small units.
> Although the counter argument also has merit. That
> would be that larger bubbles burst sooner if the
> surface tension is low, so the appearance of smaller
> bubbles (if one does not watch closely) means lower
> surface tension.
>
> Does anyone know for sure? This cold be important --
> for a reason to follow.
>
> I do know that surface tension is a function of
> hydrogen bonding between adjacent molecules-
>
> ... but the attraction, in any single water molecule
> of protons to oxygen++ is (or should be) slightly
> more than for deuterium to the same oxygen, due to
> the charge shielding effect of the neutron: ergo
> the charge available for secondary (hydrogen)
> binding to other molecules should be slightly more
> with deuterium... or not.
>
> Here again - it would be nice to have an
> authoritative reference.
>
> Not to mention, the reason that it might be
> important is that it might indicate a new way to
> enrich heavy water (frothing ??) - that is, if it
> were a substantial difference.
>
> Jones
>
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