[NewCandle] experiments and observations

Jones Beene jonesb9 at pacbell.net
Sat May 24 11:59:13 EDT 2008


--- Nick 

Thanks for your update. 

FWIW: Almost everyone seems to agree that there are
indeed strange things going on with this circuit; I
was not planning to post anything until being able to
present firm data. 

There is plenty of anecdote on Harti's site, but what
is needed now, IMHO, is reproducible data pointing to
an anomaly. 

This has not happened yet, but one comment in
agreement  with what you mentioned about batteries,
which can lead one in a new direction; at least anyone
who has a prior interest in dual electrolytes
(Viswanath, et al from India) systems- going back to
Grove... 

... which BTW - I am surprised you have not pounced on
more intently (like your cat), due to your fascination
with electrochemistry; and all of those aluminum foil
cells (which should make good collectors for whatever
is "in" the SEC zone ;-) 

I have both of Ron's circuits which are available now
from his website in addition to several others, one
with far more LEDs, which can show greater anomaly in
light, but it tends to fail too often.  Anyway, Dr
Stiffler should be congratulated for providing a
robust demo which has a long life expectancy.
Eventually someone will be able to provide good data
on excess heat, if there is any. 

Aside from that:

1) There does seem to be differing effects with
different batteries. I hate to echo the Bedini stuff,
but yes, dead batteries will work, and can be revived.


2) There does seem to be an anomaly with water
splitting, which varies with the electrolyte, and
which needs to be documented.

3) Following the recently published results: RF
splitting of salt-water by Kanzius/Roy, there are
rumors of OU. 

All of which leads to this far out suggestion: yes
there is a mundane partial explanation ("desulfation")
for the Bedini effect, but is there more to it?... 

... perhaps it would be based on an RF effect on
certain elements? i.e. is the sulfur (chlorine,
sodium, etc) somehow 'activated' by RF? 'activated'
could mean: using RF and the Casimir force to reduce a
molecule anti-entropically, as in 2(ZnO) --> 2Zn + O2.

3) If so, it could be possible to provide a dual
output device which is something akin to a "Grove
cell" which provides BOTH electrical power for the SEC
(which must be stepped up) and also hydrogen.  

However, the problem is that zinc will be consumed at
a rate which physics sez will be proportional to the
output ... unless (which is the hope) the SEC somehow
modifies that.

SPECULATION: one possible effect of the SEC, which is
hard to verbalize, is an unusual effect of RF on
electrochemisty... but is it remotely possible that it
is gainful? (i.e. reversible anti-entropic
electrochemisty?) 

Vitriolically yours,

Jones





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