[NewCandle] Windharvesting

John Steck johnsteck at tetrahelix.com
Fri Dec 12 16:20:22 EST 2008


Not to be a freetard, but anyone have a copy already to avoid spending $30 
to read it?  Thanks for posting this BTW.

-john

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From: <mixent at bigpond.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 8:06 PM
To: "New energy for the new world." <newcandle at ipdiscover.com>
Subject: Re: [NewCandle] Windharvesting

> In reply to  Nick Reiter's message of Tue, 4 Nov 2008 06:45:43 -0800 
> (PST):
> Hi,
>
>
> See e.g. http://www.iop.org/EJ/abstract/0508-3443/15/8/308
>
> [snip]
>>This has been some wonderful discussion about Aeolian
>>generators, etc...
>>
>>So here is some wind-harvest notion from another
>>angle.  And in keeping with Newcandle spirit, yes, I
>>have experimented with this, though results were
>>null-to-almost.
>>
>>Here is the thought.  In any volume of air there are a
>>certain number of ions, in some ratio (N2, O2, CO2,
>>Ar)  Both positive and negative.  Where you are,
>>indoors, outdoors, landscape, water machinery, power
>>grid, all contribute to determining this yield.
>>
>>It should be possible to harvest these ions.  I've
>>envisioned several embodiments.  One would be a set of
>>fine wire grids through which the wind would pass.
>>One might bias the grids to attract the respective
>>ionic charge carriers.
>>
>>OR, conversely, one could use magnetic separation.
>>Long chutes or windsocks lined with strong magnets,
>>and metalized collector zones on the inner surfaces.
>>
>>The embodiment I had played with last year was the
>>latter - just simple experiments of blowing room air
>>with a muffin fan through a plastic pipe with inner
>>foil strips and external magnets.  Maybe a few mV here
>>and there, but indeterminate.
>>
>>My research was bogged down in trying to find accurate
>>estimates of natural ion yield per cubic meter, for
>>example.  On-line, I had a hard time finding anything
>>other than values being tendered by people trying to
>>sell ionizers!
>>
>>Thats my wind-surfing for the day;)
>>
>>n
>>
>>The Holy Grail 'neath ancient Roslin waits.
>>The blade and chalice guarding o'er Her gates.
>>Adorned in the masters' loving art, She lies;
>>She rests at last beneath the starry skies.
>>
>>
>>
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> Regards,
>
> Robin van Spaandonk <mixent at bigpond.com>
>
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