[NewCandle] aluminum holiday

[Keith Nagel]

Hi Horace,

That sort of brings us full circle to our previous
group project of anodic glow discharge on aluminum.
At that time, I was seeing some rather amusing
effects using a carbon laden electrolyte ( tartrate )
and carbon cathode as seen here.

http://www.kpnconsulting.com/Research9.htm

We have aluminum, carbon, and temperatures high enough
to form corundum. Who knows? It's a remarkable system,
and I'd love to go back and work with it some more. 

While I don't read vortex much these days, I was amused
by Jeds recent missive about Mizuno having trouble finding
homes for his test equipment because, as he put it,
"no one does experiments nowadays". I had to laugh about
that. He's right. No one does. Well, if he's still
looking, I'll take whatever he's got. And I can
guarantee him that they'll be used for their intended
purpose. I'll split it with Nick, I know he still
keeps the faith in an external reality that we can
know through experimentation. I think we lost everyone
else though (grin). There's just no money in it, you know...
external reality, that is.

K.

-----Original Message-----
From: newcandle-bounces at ipdiscover.com
[mailto:newcandle-bounces at ipdiscover.com]On Behalf Of Horace Heffner
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 10:40 AM
To: New energy for the new world.
Subject: Re: [NewCandle] aluminum holiday



On Dec 8, 2008, at 11:42 AM, Keith Nagel wrote:
>
> You know Nick, it strikes me that perhaps you've got a good
> idea but are going at it in the opposite direction. That is
> to say, have you tried doing one of these Al corrosion experiments
> as _slowly_ as possible. Get the reaction to play out over
> the course of several months, rather than days. Not nearly
> as exciting to a couple of unrepentant pyros, but perhaps
> more likely to produce some anomalous elemental xmutation.
>
> K.

To throw an idea into the pot, or a pot into the idea, what about  
using steam?  The temperature can then be pushed very high.  Pressure  
can be pushed high too with the right hardware, but that might be a  
bit dangerous and costly.  I suggest this in part because of the  
transmutation C12->C13 supposedly observed by Mizuno:

http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/MizunoTanomaloushb.pdf

in a high pressure hydrogen plus helium environment, and which has  
been discussed extensively on vortex-l.  The foil you use, or some  
other material, may have enough carbon to have a detectible effect,  
and who knows how aluminum itself might react?  Temperature is  
extremely important in OH + Al reactions.

A pressure cooker might be of use, but the pressure relief would have  
to be a lot better. Also, water recovery would have to be used for  
longer term running. A fairly long plastic hose could be used for a  
reflux distilling type recovery system.  Maybe just a plain pot with  
a hole drilled in the ordinary lid for attaching a water recovery  
system would be enough.  A sudden excursion would just blow the lid off.

Best regards,

Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/





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