[NewCandle] Transmutation of aluminum to silver

[Nick Reiter]

Hi Jones,

Ya, maybe this will go somewhere.  I know Sam's wheels
were clicking as he was trying to scribble out energy
balances to come up with a viable transmutative route
from 27Al to Ag, even as I was talking with him the
other night!

I figured between you, Horace, and Robin here, there
might be some viable possibilities hashed out.  You
are the neutron gang!

n




--- Jones Beene <jonesb9 at pacbell.net> wrote:

> Hey guys,
> 
> Way cool!
> 
> DO NOT let Joe Champion hear about this, however.
> 
> 
> 
> ... or even the quantum rabbit.
> 
> http://www.quantumrabbit.com/
> 
> No way to tell how deep this hole goes...
> 
> Look for silver futures to "tank" literally - if
> word
> of this gets out ;-)
> 
> Jones
> 
> BTW - let's start trying to put together some decent
> documentation for aluminum transmutation (even
> anecdotal). 
> 
> This one turned up, but I don't have time to google
> much till Tuesday 
> 
>
http://sciencelinks.jp/j-east/article/200404/000020040404A0087624.php
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- Keith Nagel <NewCandleAdmin at ipdiscover.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > Hey Nick,
> > 
> > Well, I'm sort of stunned and unsure what to say
> > next...
> > 
> > I may regret this, but here goes.
> > 
> > There was once a research scientist who did work
> for
> > one of the
> > big beverage companies. His job was studying
> > corrosion of aluminum,
> > for the obvious reason that the products his
> company
> > manufactured
> > were stored in aluminum cans. He claimed to have
> > discovered a process
> > of transmutation, turning al to silver. In his
> > basement were hundreds
> > of mason jars, each containing a pair of aluminum
> > plates submerged in
> > a solution of aluminum nitrate. Slowly, over the
> > course of months,
> > the aluminum would corrode. After the plates had
> > dissolved, he would
> > collect the tiny crystals of silver.
> > 
> > How this story came to light was as follows. The
> guy
> > died, without
> > telling anyone what (if any) secret there was to
> the
> > process.
> > His children asked people for help, and came to my
> > former employer
> > and close friend for advice. He experimented with
> > the process a bit,
> > but could not make any solid claims of
> reproduction.
> > 
> > 
> > Now, like all stories, there are some mitigating
> > factors that must
> > be considered. Firstly, it was claimed by the
> family
> > that the guy
> > bought a silver mine to "cover up" the silver
> > transmutation process.
> > And it is well known that the common method of
> > silver mining is
> > to dissolve the ore in nitric acid, then displace
> > the silver from
> > solution by allowing aluminum to corrode in the
> > acid. The nitric
> > acid becomes aluminum nitrate, and you get silver
> > metal. So there
> > is this prosaic explanation.
> > 
> > However, the claim was that it took a _long_ time
> (
> > slow corrosion )
> > to get the silver in easily measurable quantities.
> > Also, there
> > were words to the effect that you needed water
> from
> > the bottom of
> > a deep well, which we now know to be more
> > concentrated in D2O.
> > 
> > Is this starting to sound familiar?
> > 
> > In fact, the very observations you are making now
> > may be the ones
> > that started our research scientist friend off on
> > his adventure.
> > 
> > So, where do we go from here?  The obvious thing
> > would be to start
> > with known pure materials, to eliminate the
> > possibility of contamination
> > of silver which would plate out on the aluminum by
> > the well known
> > displacement reaction. HOWEVER, it should be noted
> > that there is
> > a strong chance that a certain amount of silver
> may
> > be needed as
> > a "seed" to get the process going. So negative
> > results with pure
> > materials may not mean the effect doesn't exist.
> > Ideally, we
> > may want ratios, silver in/out. This is not an
> easy
> > experiment,
> > due to the time involved, and the analysis
> required.
> >  
> > 
> > I've been meaning to mention this story since you
> > started writing
> > about your al corrosion experiments, but frankly I
> > was afraid
> > that if I told you I would bias you to look for
> > silver and so
> > the results wouldn't be credible.  But here you
> are,
> > with some
> > silver results, so you ( and anyone else reading )
> > gets the
> > story...
> > 
> > K.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: newcandle-bounces at ipdiscover.com
> > [mailto:newcandle-bounces at ipdiscover.com]On Behalf
> > Of Nick Reiter
> > Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 7:07 AM
> > To: New energy for the new world.
> > Subject: [NewCandle] some new results with D2O
> salt
> > hydrolysis
> > 
> > 
> > Good morning, all,
> > 
> > This past week, I spent some near shameful amounts
> > of
> > time looking at the results of a second saltwater
> -
> > aluminum hydrolysis run, this time with 10ml of
> D2O
> > added to the roughly 3.5 liters of distilled water
> > used.  All other conditions were the same as they
> > were
> > for the run before - foil, salt, water, plastic
> > bucket
> > enclosure.
> > 
> > Whether it was due to the D2O (not likely) or
> slight
> > differences in temperature of ambient (more
> likely)
> > this run did not follow the same
> > time-temperature-gas
> > evolution curve as the one before.  Things
> stretched
> > out with this bucket run, and for approximately a
> > week, the gas evolution rate (bubbling) was pretty
> > stable.  Finally, as the bubbles slowed last
> Sunday,
> > I
> > selected one of the Al foil rolls, removed it, let
> > it
> > drain dry, and then looked at small area specimens
> > with the EDS and SEM.  I elected to look at three
> > regions this time:
> > 
> > 1.  A sample of outer turn foil - very corroded
> and
> > crusted with oxides; perforated with pinholes.
> > 
> > 2.  A sample from a turn of foil close to the
> center
> > of the roll.  Oxidized with some corrosion and
> minor
> 
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