[NewCandle] Transmutation of aluminum to silver

Jones Beene jonesb9 at pacbell.net
Sun Aug 31 14:35:16 EDT 2008


Hey guys,

Way cool!

DO NOT let Joe Champion hear about this, however.



... or even the quantum rabbit.

http://www.quantumrabbit.com/

No way to tell how deep this hole goes...

Look for silver futures to "tank" literally - if word
of this gets out ;-)

Jones

BTW - let's start trying to put together some decent
documentation for aluminum transmutation (even
anecdotal). 

This one turned up, but I don't have time to google
much till Tuesday 

http://sciencelinks.jp/j-east/article/200404/000020040404A0087624.php




--- Keith Nagel <NewCandleAdmin at ipdiscover.com> wrote:

> Hey Nick,
> 
> Well, I'm sort of stunned and unsure what to say
> next...
> 
> I may regret this, but here goes.
> 
> There was once a research scientist who did work for
> one of the
> big beverage companies. His job was studying
> corrosion of aluminum,
> for the obvious reason that the products his company
> manufactured
> were stored in aluminum cans. He claimed to have
> discovered a process
> of transmutation, turning al to silver. In his
> basement were hundreds
> of mason jars, each containing a pair of aluminum
> plates submerged in
> a solution of aluminum nitrate. Slowly, over the
> course of months,
> the aluminum would corrode. After the plates had
> dissolved, he would
> collect the tiny crystals of silver.
> 
> How this story came to light was as follows. The guy
> died, without
> telling anyone what (if any) secret there was to the
> process.
> His children asked people for help, and came to my
> former employer
> and close friend for advice. He experimented with
> the process a bit,
> but could not make any solid claims of reproduction.
> 
> 
> Now, like all stories, there are some mitigating
> factors that must
> be considered. Firstly, it was claimed by the family
> that the guy
> bought a silver mine to "cover up" the silver
> transmutation process.
> And it is well known that the common method of
> silver mining is
> to dissolve the ore in nitric acid, then displace
> the silver from
> solution by allowing aluminum to corrode in the
> acid. The nitric
> acid becomes aluminum nitrate, and you get silver
> metal. So there
> is this prosaic explanation.
> 
> However, the claim was that it took a _long_ time (
> slow corrosion )
> to get the silver in easily measurable quantities.
> Also, there
> were words to the effect that you needed water from
> the bottom of
> a deep well, which we now know to be more
> concentrated in D2O.
> 
> Is this starting to sound familiar?
> 
> In fact, the very observations you are making now
> may be the ones
> that started our research scientist friend off on
> his adventure.
> 
> So, where do we go from here?  The obvious thing
> would be to start
> with known pure materials, to eliminate the
> possibility of contamination
> of silver which would plate out on the aluminum by
> the well known
> displacement reaction. HOWEVER, it should be noted
> that there is
> a strong chance that a certain amount of silver may
> be needed as
> a "seed" to get the process going. So negative
> results with pure
> materials may not mean the effect doesn't exist.
> Ideally, we
> may want ratios, silver in/out. This is not an easy
> experiment,
> due to the time involved, and the analysis required.
>  
> 
> I've been meaning to mention this story since you
> started writing
> about your al corrosion experiments, but frankly I
> was afraid
> that if I told you I would bias you to look for
> silver and so
> the results wouldn't be credible.  But here you are,
> with some
> silver results, so you ( and anyone else reading )
> gets the
> story...
> 
> K.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: newcandle-bounces at ipdiscover.com
> [mailto:newcandle-bounces at ipdiscover.com]On Behalf
> Of Nick Reiter
> Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 7:07 AM
> To: New energy for the new world.
> Subject: [NewCandle] some new results with D2O salt
> hydrolysis
> 
> 
> Good morning, all,
> 
> This past week, I spent some near shameful amounts
> of
> time looking at the results of a second saltwater -
> aluminum hydrolysis run, this time with 10ml of D2O
> added to the roughly 3.5 liters of distilled water
> used.  All other conditions were the same as they
> were
> for the run before - foil, salt, water, plastic
> bucket
> enclosure.
> 
> Whether it was due to the D2O (not likely) or slight
> differences in temperature of ambient (more likely)
> this run did not follow the same
> time-temperature-gas
> evolution curve as the one before.  Things stretched
> out with this bucket run, and for approximately a
> week, the gas evolution rate (bubbling) was pretty
> stable.  Finally, as the bubbles slowed last Sunday,
> I
> selected one of the Al foil rolls, removed it, let
> it
> drain dry, and then looked at small area specimens
> with the EDS and SEM.  I elected to look at three
> regions this time:
> 
> 1.  A sample of outer turn foil - very corroded and
> crusted with oxides; perforated with pinholes.
> 
> 2.  A sample from a turn of foil close to the center
> of the roll.  Oxidized with some corrosion and minor
> pinholing.
> 
> 3.  A sample fron about ten turns in from the inner
> turn of the roll.  As one might suspect, looking
> more
> like the outer turn sample, but a darker hue to the
> foil remains overall.
> 
> For all input components being the same, except for
> the D2O, this is a very interesting and different
> story!
> 
> In the neutral water run previously, the main
> un-accounted for element anomaly (if it was such)
> appeared to be boron, and possibly a vague hint of
> Ce.
>  The iron concentration near pinholes was also a
> matter of debate certainly, though it was accounted
> for in the original "input".
> 
> Guys, this time though I think we have something
> pretty significant.  Ag and Y.  Up to several
> atomic%
> for both materials, deposited on surfaces at least.
> 
> Here are some random notes:
> 
> 1.  There doesn't appear to be any boron visible
> this
> time.  No Ce either.
> 
> 2.  The Fe re-distribution or enhancement effect
> near
> pinholes appears to remain for all samples, to about
> the same magnitude as in the normal water run.
> 
> 3.  Looking at oxide crusts, crystals, and eroded
> foil
> surfaces gave me a good idea of the distribution of
> Ag
> and Y.  The Y seems to be bound up with the aluminum
> oxide, the Ag seems to be alloyed or present on the
> surface of the eroded Al.
> 
> 4.  I did a cross sectional analysis of some central
> foil.  The Ag signal vanishes after about .2 to .3
> micron depth, so it does seem to be a bona fide
> shallow phenomenon, not an artifact of some
> manufacturing oddity of the Al foil.
> 
> 5.  I dissolved about 10 grams of the foil from the
> reacted roll in HCl, then washed and examined the
> insolubles (apparently Al2O3)  The Y signal was
> clearly present in about the same ratio as it had
> been
> looking at it on in-situ.
> 
> 
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