[NewCandle] Resonance effects on RF electrolysis
Jones Beene
jonesb9 at pacbell.net
Thu Aug 14 11:26:25 EDT 2008
One more thought on this - and thanks to Horace for
including the information on lower O2 release - which
I was trying to recite from memory.
The final thought goes back to the Grove-type of
multi-purpose two-electrolyte cell which can be both
battery, water-splitter, or fuel cell- depending on
very small changes in the set-up.
Coincidentally - the Gore company, no relation to Al,
has been promoting its improved Gore-Tex proton
conductor, and researchers in Oz have taken that to
another level (even so - they may be missing the best
use):
http://www.gasworld.com/news.php?a=3010;la=1
http://www.greenerdesign.com/news/2008/08/07/new-fuel-cell-design-removes-platinum-adds-gore-tex
Even the regular Gore-Tex fabric for Parkas can be
used for a short time as a membrane in a
two-electrolyte water-splitter - but it does not last
long enough to be useful, if there is acid on one
side.
Anyway - the point that I am grasping to make here is
that if there is any (external) avenue for gainfulness
at all (ZPE, hydrino, etc) -- even if it is found
through blind luck instead of careful planning -- then
the way that it would possibly materialize most
robustly is this:
... tad da-- where you engineer a sequential battery
and water-splitter in the same device ! Get it?
i.e. you have a pulsed high frequency input - exactly
like in the video except that is should be optimized
with a membrane - AND using a twin electrolyte.
IOW on the positive pulse hydrogen would be released,
and on the relaxation, the cell operates in reverse
like a battery to recapture part of the energy
expended. The RF is mostly for timing and the EMF
comes from chemical metastability and from
"elsewhere"....
There would still need to be "something else" in the
way of an "external" energy source (ZPE?) in order to
reach the "pathological" goal of OU -- but there could
be hints of that already in some of these naive videos
and other experiments which are not yet on YouTube but
should be. Who sez that Gibbs free energy is not ever
really free?
At least that is the direction I am heading towards
and promoting this week, and as soon as the proper
proton conductor can be located. BTW it may NOT be the
Gore-Tex at least not alone, as there has also been
some progress in simple ceramic proton conductors
(alumina with a dopant) which can essentially be
"homemade" if you have access to a kiln (I do). That
thin ceramic would protect the Gore-Tex on the acid
side but still allow proton conduction (hopefully).
Speaking of "Hope" mine is that this is not yet
another wild idea that goes nowhere.
BTW - the twin electrolytes -- as anticipated now are
salt-water on the cathode side, with graphite cathode;
and nitric acid on the anode with stainless electrode.
This will need to be well-vented as there will be
nitric oxides emitted, but the idea for ultimate
implementation is that in operation the "noxious"
gases (very apt name, no?) will be stored, burned and
recycled when needed.
Jones
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