[NewCandle] Gallium for Al H2O reaction rate

[Jones Beene]

Guys,

Don't forget Pacheco:
http://www.fuel-efficient-vehicles.org/FEV-Pacheco-generator.php


George- you might want to call Mark Goldes about that this you are 
seriously interested. He told me once that this technology goes beyond 
what you would normally expect to get based on a Faradaic equivalence.

Otherwise - why would anyone go to the trouble ? That is, it takes 10 
kw-hr of electricity to make a pound of aluminum, say, and you compare 
that with using the same 10 kwh in electrolysis (~80% eff) then by going 
through the intemediate step of using the aluminum process, then do you 
actually get significantly MORE hydrogen for your trouble?

Yes. I know that this does not make much scientific sense. I recall from 
reading some of the Pacheco stuff years ago, that in fact some labs had 
confirmed it, however ... and I think Mark has some knowledge of 
positive R&D which wasn't published.

This is not to say that it was OU - but that the the end result of using 
metals - was more "energy efficient" (but CAVEAT: probably not more 
cost-efficient, as the cost of Al will be at least triple the energy input).

Jones




Keith Nagel wrote:
> Hi George,
> 
> When I saw this on the lists, I thought it sounded kind of familiar.
> And in fact, I remembered reading something like it on
> Rex Research's site.
> 
> http://rexresearch.com/articles/anderson.htm
> 
> here the combination was aluminum, gallium, and sodium
> ( that'd spice things up a bit ). Although Anderson
> was a con man, the technology certainly does produce
> H2. And it'd be cheaper to do it without the sodium,
> as Woodall is doing. BTW, Anderson has a patent, I
> wonder if it will come up in the pending Woodall
> application?
> 
> Here's a link to the Purdue press release.
> 
> http://www.purdue.edu/uns/x/2007a/070515WoodallHydrogen.html
> 
> The picture totally cracked me up. Woodall is presumably
> the guy with the eye patch? Maybe he should be wearing
> those safety goggles like the guy on the left, huh?
> I mean, you'd think after the first eye he'd be a bit more cautious.
> 
> You're quite right about it's relevance to these
> Al dissolution experiments. The oxide film is the
> thing that is limiting H2 production. What was remarkable
> to Nick and then myself was how much H2 was produced with
> just Al and water. I mentioned this to Fred S. and he
> also agreed, saying he had cooked up a notion to power
> a car with beer cans found on the side of the road. He
> calculated 13 cans/mile...
> 
> K.
> 
> PS I imagine a good portion of the price of Al is the
> electricity used to refine it???
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: newcandle-bounces at ipdiscover.com
> [mailto:newcandle-bounces at ipdiscover.com]On Behalf Of George Holz
> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 1:54 PM
> To: NewCandle at ipdiscover.com
> Subject: [NewCandle] Gallium for Al H2O reaction rate
> 
> 
> Hi Nick, Keith, Jones, Robin etc.
> 
> You can see I've been wasting my time
> reading investment newsletters.
> Thought you might find this interesting.
> How much gallium? Where?
> 
> George Holz
> Varitronics Systems
> 
> Investing in Commodities: Aluminum as an Alternative Fuel Source?
> by Ann Sosnowski, Editor-in-Chief, Diligent Investor
> 
> Aluminum-based pellets have been proven to produce hydrogen when in contact
> with water. Is this a new alternative fuel source that could make both
> ethanol proponents and opponents stand on the same side of the fence?
> 
> Aluminum is already one of the most important commodities in the world
> economy. The metal is used heavily for building structures and
> transportation projects. The only other metal that exceeds its use on the
> global scale is iron. Not to mention it’s the most abundant metal in the
> earth’s crust.
> 
> Scientists at Purdue University in Indiana have found that when aluminum is
> doused with water, hydrogen is produced “on demand,” so you only get what
> you want when you need it. Simply, there’s no waste.
> 
> The current system of producing hydrogen from the reaction between aluminum
> and H20 can be used to power chainsaws, lawnmowers and other smaller
> mechanical objects. But the researchers are working on a way to use it in
> automobiles and other types of transportation.
> -----------------------------
> The main catalyst for the aluminum-to-hydrogen equation is gallium, which
> keeps a protective “skin” from growing on aluminum pellets, allowing the
> reaction to occur.
> -----------------------------
> The reaction is not only waste-free, but it’s also toxin-free. --- ?? ---
> 
> Analysts have estimated that the hydrogen from this aluminum-water-gallium
> reaction would retail at about $3 per gasoline-gallon equivalent, a little
> less than gasoline prices today.
> 
> This is an alternative fuel story well worth following. This “on-demand”
> fuel could give ethanol-based and electric cars a run for their money in the
> future.
> 
> According to a one-year aluminum chart, the price of the base metal
> continues to increase. In July 2006, the price of aluminum was at a low of
> $1.075 per pound. Less than a year later, aluminum is going for $1.275 per
> pound, a gain of 19%.
> 
> I remain bullish on aluminum over the long term, since it hasn’t had such a
> heavy run-up as copper or nickel.
> 
> Especially if this aluminum-into-hydrogen study expands into alternative
> vehicle projects, demand for the shiny malleable metal will increase, and
> with it the price.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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