[NewCandle] SEC - Strategic Erg Command

Jones Beene jonesb9 at pacbell.net
Wed Dec 12 18:13:11 EST 2007


Nick

> I guess then that I am at a loss, and that its Dr.
> Stiffler's claims against mine.  

No, no. I don't agree that there is a real problem yet. Just trying to 
make sure we are all on the same wavelength, so to speak.

> my rig is an honest replication of one of the posted
> system geometries.  

OK let me ask again - unless I missed one of you messages - do you use 
an open wire, Avramenko type of geometry ? or did you follow the Thomas 
schematic literally (no open wires)?

> Or it may well be that "it" just wasn't happening in
> my circuit.  Maybe wrong time of day, wrong lab
> environment.  I'm not being facetious - I do believe
> some phenomena are that fussy - seen it myself.

Don't forget that Ron Stiffler and several others have put a few hundred 
hours into this so far, working out the small details. This could be 
merely a case of needing a few adjustments to your basic setup.

> Let me ask you this, Jones... you have tried the LED
> banks - what does YOUR eye say when you run them off
> of the oscillator versus DC?  5x may be hard to
> discern

I would say, from what I have actually seen on our end (not DrS), that 
the difference is closer to a 3X improvement of RF over DC for light 
output, taking into account the RF losses (core losses, transistor 
heating, etc)... which as you say, cannot easily be discerned by eye and 
maybe not without the best available light meter.

My problem is that I am working with another party, who also has his own 
views, so it is not often practical to try to confirm everything that 
Stiffler does. DrS is a very fast worker and tries many things without 
necessarily going back to all the ones which show promise.

We will soon have access to a much better light meter, however, so that 
will help. This is a constantly evolving situation and finding a good 
"target" for faithful replication has not been easy. For one thing, Dr 
Stiffler went through a digression of about 10 days or so (my fault) 
trying to optimize the circuit for heat - as opposed to light. This is 
because I had arranged for EarthTech to test it using their MOAC 
calorimeters.

In the mean time, as fate would have it, another circuit came from 
another participant in his group, which has apparently solved that 
problem (of lesser heat than expected), so that now he apparently has 
both an excess-heat generator and an excess-photon generator.

Bottom line, it will of course be a miracle of biblical proportions, if 
overunity is indeed confirmed, lets not minimize the importance and 
difficulty of that monumental task, but it looks to me like there is a 
decent probability of that in the coming weeks -- even without another 
improvement, it will be poised to be confirmed on two fronts with 
circuits now operating - both as to heat - with a COP of less than beut 
near 2, and more importantly with photon output, which could be at a 
much higher apples-to-oranges type of COP.

If we (this is not including DrS, as he has abandoned this approach) can 
ever get the "negistor" oscillator up to a higher frequency, then that 
may make a huge difference on the primary side. For whatever unknown 
reason, there does seem to be something very surprising happening at ~12 
MHz.

Why 12 MHz? or is it simply an artifact of that inductor? ... not clear 
yet. As you know, the open FCC range at 13.56 MHz is suspiciously close, 
but this has been ruled out as a entry way of stray input.

Jones




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